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Max Cossack's avatar

Kristoff and the New York Times were simply trying to help out their Hamas accomplices by diverting attention from the new detailed report on the Hamas October 7 atrocities.

Tate Brown's avatar

The Israeli report?

Lester Dent's avatar

When you say “proper investigation,” what do you mean? The Israeli Civil Commission did an in-depth, deeply sourced investigation; who would you say would provide a “proper investigation?” The UN? Maybe even UNRWA which is controlled by Hamas? Possibly the ICC, which has issued an arrest warrant for Netanyahu? Maybe the UNHRC with moral members like China & Afghanistan?

Tate Brown's avatar

Yes, the United Nations. No, they are not controlled by Hamas. Yes, the ICC. Sorry, you lost!

Lester Dent's avatar

Reading is fundamental. Did I say the UN is controlled by Hamas? No I did not. There is no doubt that UNRWA is/was controlled by Hamas (the UN has taken minor face-saving measures firing less than a dozen Hamas UNRWA members). UNRWA promoted anti-Israeli propaganda in schools. Intelligence has determined at least 1,462 UNRWA employees (or nearly 12%) were members of Hamas, its military wing, PIJ, or other terrorist factions. Of these, 79% were educators & 5% medical personnel. Does a UN agency that has 12% terrorist members in its ranks not know this when they work in the region? Hamas command centers (32 in total) were located in or near UNRWA facilities, including a server farm under UNRWA’s Gaza City HQ supplied with electricity from the HQ. Hamas documents recovered & shared with the UN & member nations listed Hamas personnel inside UNRWA. So yeah, the UNRWA was working hand in glove with Hamas. The argument can be made (as a Christian missionary to India once confided to me) that aid organizations can only operate by the grace of warlords & terrorists that run the region, but this is another way of saying UNRWA was controlled by Hamas. Do you for one minute think the UN in general was unaware of this infiltration & cooperation?

Between 2015 & 2024, the UNGA passed 173 resolutions against Israel & only 80 against all other nations combined. Biased much? These nations that have permitted or instigated ethnic cleansing & literal genocide (not the fake genocide claims against Israel), allow slavery (including China), the common religious oppression in Muslim countries, wars of aggression against neighboring states, & ruthless repression or propagation of civil war? When members of the UNHRC are among the nations regularly cited by NGOs like HRW for systemic human rights violations? Out of the 163 UN member states surveyed by the Economist, only 25 were considered democracies. 60 countries are classified as authoritarian, with an additional 36 a “hybrid” of authoritarian & democracy (which ranges from electing parliamentary bodies that cannot oppose the “king for life” to fraudulent elections where 99% vote for the Dear Leader). This merry band of countries requires only a simple majority to pass most resolutions, which means the autocratic regimes can pass what they like. The democratic & mostly free states (primarily in Europe & the US) are vastly outnumbered. The permanent Security Council members? US, China, Russia, France & the UK (the P5). Among the rotating other 10? Somalia (a failed state that sponsors pirates) & Pakistan (a nuclear-armed hybrid run primarily by the military & ISI). Any member of the P5 can veto a UNSC resolution, meaning Russia & China (as well as emerging Islamic theocracies France & UK) control things (Tbf the US can & has vetoed a lot of BS SC resolutions). Ironically, of these, totalitarian Russia has the most sympathy for tiny Israel.

The ICC is a body with no credibility or power. It ignores major crimes & has no ability to enforce its decisions. Major countries who reject the ICC’s authority? The US, China, Russia, India, Israel, Turkey & Saudi Arabia.

One of the more legally absurd claims is that Gaza was a signatory of the Rome Statute because the PA claimed jurisdiction over Gaza. However, Fatah (the PA political party) was kicked out of power in Gaza by Hamas in 2007. Fatah won fewer seats than Fatah in the 2006 elections for parliament (the only election held), & in 2007 Hamas ejected Fatah & the PA from governance by killing, torturing, imprisoning & forcing Fatah member to flee Gaza. The Hamas charter specifically rejects international influence or control by even other Islamic groups like the PA/Fatah. The ICC did nothing to Hamas in 2007. The ICC now claims they have jurisdiction over Israel & Gaza because in 2015 (8 years after the PA & Fatah were violently stripped of any influence or military/political control of Gaza) the PA signed the Rome Statute & claimed they ruled Gaza (which they did not).

The ICC has no credibility nor authority. They do hate Jews & Israel, which I assume is why you think they should investigate Israel.

Tate Brown's avatar

Ah foundation for defense of democracies talking points. Do tell, what was its initial name when it was founded.

Lester Dent's avatar

I have never to my knowledge read anything from FDD. I have heard of it. I’ve also heard of Der Sturmer, but I’ve never read it. Pray, tell, what was its first name?

Please cite to actual FDD publications for all the arguments I make (I assume they publish things on their website, & you would never have made your claim without those documents open on your device). You made the claim. Back it up. Not some FDD pieces on UNRWA or the ICC, but actual pieces that contain all of the facts & arguments I make.

I note you are unwilling to refute a single point I raise, but use the traditional leftist (dare I say Alinsky?) tactic of trying to refute with demonization not facts.

Please explain, if you would, how my history of Gazan political control is incorrect. Cite your sources that there was no major control or cooperation between UNRWA & Hamas. Cite evidence the the ICC is an impartial judicial body which takes on all malefactors regardless of politics & has the ability to enforce its findings. In all of its history I can think of only one major political personage who was actually imprisoned after being found guilty by the ICC, only because he voluntarily turned himself in to custody after working out a deal. Maybe you have better info than I do.

So really you have nothing. “Yeah, well you copied this from some pro-Jew think tank!” or whatever you think FDD is (I’m too lazy to look them up). Assuming, arguendo, I had, that ignores your duty if you are intellectually honest to refute what I wrote.

Try to think for yourself, friend. Don’t just think you are clever as a white boy trying to emulate a ghetto black (yes, I visited your feed). Learn some history. Read multiple sources. Don’t simply accept what your thought leaders tell you to think. Or as Chris Rock would say, “Don’t be ignant.”

It will pay dividends.

Tate Brown's avatar

Listen here jew boy. Don't you ever talk down to someone else. I find it remarkable you've never heard (not read, not even HEARD) of FDD. Here's where you got that from: https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2024/02/12/hamas-data-center-found-under-unrwa-headquarters/. I'm alarmed that you claim to have come up with this all by yourself little nigger. You just plucked those numbers from your brain?

Lester Dent's avatar

Ah my sweet child. So many errors so quickly.

Not a Jew. An American Baptist (look it up).

This is why I say reading is fundamental. You claim I say I’ve never heard of FDD? Perhaps the first couple of lines of my post eluded you:

“I have never to my knowledge read anything from FDD. I have heard of it.”

When your reading comprehension is so low, how can anyone who is not a virulent bigot NOT talk down to you?

Ignored. You are such ignorant filth that I feel soiled over the web. I guess you DO read Der Sturmer. With a name like “Brown” I suggest you never look into Ancestry dot com or have your DNA tested. I suspect you would be shocked.

I suspect your robe needs cleaning. Apply to the SPLC for a stipend.

B.'s avatar

Nicholas Kristof is not that bright. How does a journalist fall for lies not just once but often? This isn't Kristof's first time.

Either that, or he hates Jews and will latch onto any fabrication to smear them.

This "report" of Israelis raping Muslims and even teaching dogs to rape them is an attempt to get the jump on the bona fide, comprehensive documentation of multiple rapes, gang rapes, child rapes, necrophilia, and the like, engaged in by Hamas terrorists on October 7, 2023.

When the WWII Nazi concentration camps were liberated, British command forced Germans living nearby ("We didn't know"; couldn't they smell what was happening?) to walk past rancid open pits of dead Jews. I wish we could make every keffiyehed young thing to see footage of October 7. Perhaps they'd stop their inane screaming of "from the river to the sea."

Tate Brown's avatar

2 pulitzer prizes to your 0 pulitzer prizes

B.'s avatar

Haha! The shrieking keffiyeh brigade!

Rudi Schmidt's avatar

The term “Kristol” can be substituted for “whack job” as in “the pathetic so-called journalist is a kristol.”

A Stranger in a Strange Land's avatar

Maybe it was Hamas child brides on a conjugal visit? They are hairy